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    How Should We Record "Alternate Beginning"

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    • damian
      damian @Johnny Love last edited by

      @Johnny-Love by that logic, what is The Reprise? It was originally America Reprise and still sits there sometimes... But when it doesn't should when just call it "The"?

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      • Johnny Love
        Johnny Love A @damian last edited by

        @damian yes! No, kidding aside and devils advocate hat unrelinquished, the reprise is an independent entity from America thus can be detached and keep its name regardless of location. AE and AB are identical, so as they say in the restaurant biz: location, location, location.

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          SassyPete $$$ last edited by

          I think we should call it Alternate Spaffording. Then it goes at beginnings and ends whenever they want, and it always fits.
          This idea looks surprisingly stupid in writing. 😆

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          • Johnny Love
            Johnny Love A @SassyPete last edited by

            @SassyPete correction - this brilliant idea makes writing look surprisingly stupid

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            • Lopez
              Lopez @Johnny Love last edited by

              @Johnny-Love but the Reprise wasn't always independent of America, it was America Reprise for a little while.

              Alternate used to be the actual ending of taco stand but once ETS got reworked the "alternate ending" then took on its own life

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              • Johnny Love
                Johnny Love A @Lopez last edited by

                @Lopez mind = blown

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                • robAF
                  robAF @damian last edited by

                  @damian alternate bridge

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                  • Johnny Love
                    Johnny Love A @robAF last edited by

                    @dr_rock where's that confounded alternate bridge?

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                    • Josh Ross
                      Josh Ross last edited by

                      It should just remain alternate ending with a note

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                      • RadiantDarkness
                        RadiantDarkness last edited by

                        The Ending Previously Known as Alternate

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                        • BushCow
                          BushCow last edited by

                          Perhaps it should be tracked however the official Nugs release tracks it. I know it takes a little while for them to release so, at first, just track it as Alternate Ending. It IS the same song regardless of placement so I'm not really sure why it would have a different name. Although, now that I look at the Nugs release for the Madison show, they officially tracked it as Alternate Beginning. Ah what confusion! Maybe somebody can inquire with the band at a show.

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                          • damian
                            damian @BushCow last edited by damian

                            @BushCow They also track "Jam" songs which we've decided to generally avoid. I'm thinking a LOT about stats here and the question becomes is "Alternate Beginning" stat worthy (beyond the note on the song). I mean, have you seen 5 Alternate Endings and 1 Alternate Beginning?

                            The general consensus seems to be that it is going to be Alternate Ending* where *="Labeled as Alternate Beginning". The good news is that we should be able to track this stuff down later if it becomes apparent that it needs to be changed.

                            You know, there's a field in the dataset that you guys can't see called "Other Names" (or something like that). Songs like In The Eyes Of Thieves have entries there for "Chocolate Beef", and All In has an entry for "Combo Combo".

                            EDIT: I'm amending the text above to be accurate, but I want to capture that I mistakenly said Ain't That Wrong was once called Chocolate Beef, that way @Lopez's comment below still makes sense.

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                            • Lopez
                              Lopez @damian last edited by

                              @damian I could be wrong but isn't "In the Eyes of Theieves" "Chocolate Beef"?

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                              • damian
                                damian @Lopez last edited by

                                @Lopez said in How Should We Record "Alternate Beginning":

                                @damian I could be wrong but isn't "In the Eyes of Theieves" "Chocolate Beef"?

                                And that's number 4!!!!

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                                • damian
                                  damian last edited by

                                  So for all of you that wanted "Alternate Beginning"... do you think "Pandas" should be a new song? https://spaffnerds.com/shows/2017-10-31

                                  HAH! TAKE THAT! I'm finally RIGHT!!!

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